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things gay people have (and haven’t) taken from us

Note to reader: put away your flaming pitch forks and just hear me out for a minute, okay?

Things gay people have taken and made their own without asking everyone else’s permission first:

1. The phrase “coming out of the closet”. From all that I can gather, this goes back to the metaphor of having ‘skeletons in the closet’ meaning any kind of secret that you don’t want to be made public. So coming out of the closet is opening up to people and being honest about who you are. It first came into common use in the 60’s when men were formally presented at gay debutante balls. Now, so many years later, “coming out of the closet” only means coming out as gay and can’t be used in any other context without confusing an issue. That’s not so bad, I think we can live with that one and find other metaphors to use in non-homosexual references.

2. The word “gay”. Remember when “gay” meant jolly/happy/joyful/fun? No? Neither do I. Because it was so damn long ago. Gay has been used to refer to homosexuals since at least the 1920’s, perhaps longer. So now if you happen to be describing, say room decor that is bright and showy, and you say “this room is so gay” people automatically think you’re being a bigot/asshole/jerk.

gay pride rainbow flag

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3. Rainbows. The gay pride flag made its first appearance at a Gay and Lesbian Freedom Parade in San Francisco in 1978. Now I’m all for the idea behind it as a symbol of diversity, but also unity. But the rainbow?! It is a really magical occurrence in real life and it is a wonderfully bright and vibrant symbol or aesthetic to be used in so many ways. So… *whiny voice* why did gay people have to make it theirs? I don’t care if people get mad at me. I want the rainbow back. I really do.


And now! Things gay people have not taken away from us:

The Sanctity of Marriage I am sick of hearing about how the legalization of gay marriage will ruin “the sanctity of marriage”. Really?! It can’t possibly. We all know the divorce rate in the U.S. is somewhere around 50% these days. 50%!! And keep in mind, sanctity is “the quality or state of becoming holy, sacred, or saintly” so it really has nothing whatever to do with a legal policy regarding marriage. The legalization issue has nothing whatever to do with religion or any type of church. We are talking about the state and federal governments affording committed gay couples the same protections and freedoms given to any other married couple. An argument against it on the basis of “sanctity” is complete and utter bullshit. If any two adults want to make a commitment of marriage to each other, they ought to be given equal rights by law to do so. No one told me who to love or who to marry and I don’t see any rational reason why anyone else should be told who to love or who to marry.

Thanks for reading my thoughts, I’ll get off my soapbox now. Feel free to honk about this issue in the comments section below.

148 comments on “things gay people have (and haven’t) taken from us

  1. NicoLite Великий
    November 5, 2014

    I don’t see how the gays stole the word “gay”. It was literally thrown at them. Figuratively, they just put on the shoes we threw at them

    Thanks btw for following my blog 🙂

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    • thehonkinggoose
      November 5, 2014

      I know, it’s true. This is not the only fallacy you might find in my writing. There are others. My aim is to be entertaining first and accurate second. Sorry. 🙂

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      • NicoLite Великий
        November 5, 2014

        I should know well about the aim to amuse over informing… After all, I really do just pretend to know stuff 🙂

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  2. Ellen Hawley
    November 5, 2014

    Hey, everybody, we haven’t taken the rainbow. Honest. It’s still out there. We’re only borrowing it to say everybody’s included, and if you’re part of everybody (and I’m pretty sure you are), keep right on using it!

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    • thehonkinggoose
      November 5, 2014

      I know! I hope what I wrote wasn’t too harsh. The more I think about it, the more I question myself. But it was my attempt to get across my strong feelings about marriage equality. I just hope that comes across when people read this. Thanks for you comment! 🙂

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      • Ellen Hawley
        November 12, 2014

        I thought your post was fine. I was trying to be both funny and serious here. As, I believe, were you.

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  3. psychologistmimi
    October 28, 2014

    interesting post!

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  4. MusicallyBeautiful
    October 23, 2014

    In my country,people ACT like Gay people are equivalent to Zombies. THEY DON’T EXIST. It’s fucking sick.

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  5. poetlou
    October 23, 2014

    JUST ONE WORD ” ” TOUCHE “

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  6. Éilis Niamh
    October 23, 2014

    Hey there, I share your thoughts on marriage, good argument also. And yeah, what’s up with the rainbow??? When I was an innocent fourth grader I had an awesome rainbow on one of my binders. I’m very straight, just love rainbows. But was relentlessly called gay by my peers… I admit I was naive and young enough to not even know what the term meant. I would add also that an older adult friend once told me I should stop wearing so much lavender, as that’s the color lesbians wear. None of my lesbian friends agree with her comment, by the way. I think greater sensitivity and education is needed all around on the subject. Assumptions based on appearance have never led to greater understanding of anyone different from oneself. Thanks for following me!

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 23, 2014

      Situations like that unfortunately show how simple minded people can be. Thank you for your thoughtful comment and for taking the time to read the Honking Goose. 😀

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  7. tessadoghor
    October 23, 2014

    The rainbow still means God’s covenant to me and mine.

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  8. Ru
    October 21, 2014

    No.2 happens to me all the time since I refuse to give up using the word gay in the context of happy. It always starts an argument as to whether it really means that anymore but I refuse to stop using it. Now I just add other descriptors so people know I am mean happy gay and not homosexual gay. Gosh, it’s exhausting minding your language all the time! Thanks for the follow. 🙂

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 21, 2014

      That is good to hear. Way to keep it real. And thanks for checking out the Honking Goose. 😀

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  9. Rebecca
    October 19, 2014

    First or all, thanks for the follow to faithsighanddiy. I loved this post and agree pretty much across the board. God bless.

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 19, 2014

      Thank you for your support and for checking out the Honking Goose. 😀

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  10. The Daily Blabber
    October 16, 2014

    I agree with you. Especially on 2 & 4. People are so uptight about things that don’t technically affect them. Gay isn’t a bad word and not everyone that uses it means it that way. I still say it. Think what you must. I don’t care. Marry who you want. Marry your dog. I don’t care (though the dog might). Sanctity of marriage my behind. Straight people barely respect marriage as it was intended. All that said I LOVE RAINBOWS!

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 16, 2014

      Love is always a good thing, right? So if people want to love each other – good! And for obvious reasons, everyone deserves equal protection under the law, no matter who they choose to love!

      I love, love, love, love rainbows! We can just start using them everywhere for everything. Like the way people starting wearing camo as a fashion statement, so it doesn’t just represent hunters and military any more.

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      • Lauren
        October 28, 2014

        you expressed my thoughts better than I would have, so I’ll simply say YES to both of the above, lol. I bought some camo fashion duct tape for a project I’m working on, and I can promise I am NOT a hunter, so I think your idea is right on. =)

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  12. dotcablogger
    October 15, 2014

    Ha ha, too funny :).

    I also want to use a rainbow again (like as a sticker).

    But it’s been a logo for gay guys and chicks for so long, that no time soon can I wear it on a shirt and just be identified as straight! 😛

    So I would want wear the gay pride rainbow as a t-shirt featuring Rainbow Bright 🙂

    Anyway, number 3 is true for me:

    3. Rainbows. The gay pride flag made its first appearance at a Gay and Lesbian Freedom Parade in San Francisco in 1978. Now I’m all for the idea behind it as a symbol of diversity, but also unity. But the rainbow?! It is a really magical occurrence in real life and it is a wonderfully bright and vibrant symbol or aesthetic to be used in so many ways. So… *whiny voice* why did gay people have to make it theirs? I don’t care if people get mad at me. I want the rainbow back. I really do.

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 16, 2014

      I love, love, love, love rainbows! We can just start using them everywhere for everything. Like the way people starting wearing camo as a fashion statement, so it doesn’t just represent hunters and military any more. 😀

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  13. leeduigon
    October 13, 2014

    To arrive at an accurate “divorce rate,” it would be necessary to record all the marriages for a given year and follow them to conclusion–what they call a longitudinal study. It wouldn’t be properly finished until all the people in the sample had died. We would then know how many of that year’s marriages ended in divorce.

    This has never been done.

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 13, 2014

      Well, on one hand I think some people have unreasonable expectations that once they marry for love, the relationship should always be easy and they give up if it isn’t.

      On the other hand, I think that nowadays people simply feel more free to move on from a marriage that no longer feels right and seek out new relationships, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

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  14. My! Obviously a good post as you have people talking! I too was not going to read this post but I am glad I did. I think of the saying “can’t we all just get along”.
    Thanks for stopping by my blog.

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 12, 2014

      Thanks for giving this article a chance and for honking back. 😀

      We’re a long way from letting everyone live in peace and share equal rights, but the internet gives us such an amazing opportunity to see other viewpoints and open up discussions like this.

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  15. Basharr
    October 11, 2014

    They have taken the ability to be honest about what we believe is actually acceptable. Well actually they have not taken it but think chick-fil-a.

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 11, 2014

      What do you mean? I’m being honest; a little sarcastic and snarky, but honest. I don’t even know what you are saying. I don’t know what chik-fil-a is either, we don’t have that here.

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      • Basharr
        October 11, 2014

        Chick-fil-a is a fast food chain the company CEO made it known that the chain was traditional family orientated and the gays attacked the chain. Etc.I just don’t believe we should be forced to accept somebody else’s lifestyle choice.

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        • thehonkinggoose
          October 12, 2014

          Should people have to accept your lifestyle choices?

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          • Basharr
            October 12, 2014

            No, I am who I am but I don’t boycott or try to destroy someone’s business even if they don’t accept my lifestyle. Thats the point acceptance is never mandatory or at least should not be.

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            • thehonkinggoose
              October 12, 2014

              Boycotting has historically shown to be a powerful tool that people without a lot of money or power can use effectively to create social change from the ground up. Think of the bus boycotts in the 50’s which helped gain equal rights for blacks, and the grape boycott of the 60’s.which helped gain rights for farmworkers.

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            • Basharr
              October 12, 2014

              What would you say to people who have views based on religion? Are they to have the weight of their beliefs diminished to accommodate those unwilling to accommodate them?

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            • thehonkinggoose
              October 12, 2014

              Well the whole point of my article was to say that I don’t believe that giving everyone equal rights under the law does anything to diminish anyone’s religious convictions.

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            • Basharr
              October 12, 2014

              Since things have changed businesses no longer have the right to refuse service to anyone as has long been the law. The sweet cakes issue where a baker based her refusal to bake a cake for a same sex couple based on her religious beliefs, the state stepped in and first stated it was a violation of human rights, then cleaned it up a little and said it was a violation of civil rights. Yet the state did nothing over the numerous threats including the possibility of harm.aimed at the bakery owner. The bakery has since shut down and operate out of their home now. The state can require people serve the gay community and I am not against that. However the state should act with some form of balance and the community should as well seek to accept that some simply will not accept. Remember the sign “We Reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.”

              I appreciate the back and forth here and my goal is not to offend I just speak whats on my mind after I read some things like the original post I commented on.Honestly I know my actual lifestyle infuriates even my own mother, she cannot stand the fact that I hunt to put most of the meat I eat on the table. More than once she has called me a Bambi Killer. =)

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    • hessiafae
      October 12, 2014

      The ability to be honest remains, as does the ability to disagree and boycott.

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      • thehonkinggoose
        October 12, 2014

        Which is a right and responsibility that not everyone in the world has access to. So we should consider ourselves fortunate and not take it for granted.

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        • Basharr
          October 12, 2014

          True, not all people on this planet have the ability to exercise their rights and I am quite content with the rights I have.

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  16. insaitablesatie514
    October 11, 2014

    At first, I have to admit that I was already set to start blasting you on this one….UNTIL I started reading what you wrote.. I may not agree with everything you said, however, the whole legalization thing… I am with you, there is NO reason for the “sanctity of marriage” to be destroyed because two people of the same sex want to be married.. utter bullshit for sure!! 🙂

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 16, 2014

      Thanks for giving it a chance and reading it through to the end. I say if people want to love each other, then yay! Love is good. Everyone deserves equal protection under the law, no matter who they choose to love.

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  17. lizziearias
    October 10, 2014

    I love the post it made me smile, while I am a gay supporter, I too would like the rainbow back lol

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  18. Noel
    October 10, 2014

    This reminds me of the movie “West Side Story” where Mary sings “I’m so pretty … and gay…!!!! I appreciate this post . Language and symbols evolve over time. The cross was a symbol of execution , and now it is a religious icon. Pink was considered a female color, and now men are starting to wear pink shirts. No big issue . Gay people will eventually be accepted by everyone , like people of different races and religion. We just need to realize that we are constantly evolving and changing. We are also growing and maturing as a society. I am optimistic about our human race as far as social issues go.

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 10, 2014

      Yes, that movie is a good example. And that wasn’t so very long ago. I’ve also read that 150 or so yrs ago, it was customary to dress baby boys in pink and baby girls in blue. Change is a good sign.

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  19. creepymom
    October 9, 2014

    I’m pretty sure the sanctity of marriage was utterly destroyed when Kim Kardashian ended her 72 day marriage….

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  20. turhh
    October 9, 2014

    Thank you for your expression of “follow” on my blag – I couldn’t find a comment section on your “about” page so I gaily (Adverb) came here to this section.

    My Mama and her Venusian confederates used the term in its real, original (13th century) sense (derived from old French and thence via the old Germanic language meaning “merry” etc), well into the 80’s – thus quite a while after your 1920’s.

    Of course our language continuously changes and thank the man in the sky for it.

    In the young people’s Anglosphere the term “gay” now appears to mean “lame / useless” etc, so clearly one day words / phrases like, “if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a homosexual,” may well come into fashion – and let’s face it, who could blame it – not me!

    And as for “them,” being allowed to legally marry – well why the hell shouldn’t they suffer like the rest of us – human being males and Venusians!!

    Keep on honking dah-dahding – you sound to me to be supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 9, 2014

      Hmm, interesting. So gay people may not want the term “gay” anymore as bigoted people have given it a negative slant. Which will do nothing for bringing it back as a term for light and happy. So it goes. Language cannot be made to be static; it is always changing.

      Thanks for reading the Honking Goose! 😀

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      • turhh
        October 9, 2014

        I think it’s a little harsh to say that bigoted people have given it a negative slant. There may well be bigotry within their numbers but surely if we accept that a very well established 13th century term can be turned on almost a whim by one section of our world’s community after some 6 or 700 years original usage, that in turn it is the right of others to act similarly? Perhaps, in this case, we might well accuse ourselves of being bigoted in the act of crying bigotry on a newer, younger group within our community?

        Do honk back, if it pleases you to so do?

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        • turhh
          October 9, 2014

          A gay boy in conversation with his, yet to leave the closet, same sex ‘friend:’

          “Your Mother’s a lovely woman isn’t she,” the closet said, “she knits a lot too doesn’t she?”

          “Oh, tell me about it, knitting, she never stops you know,” replied the gay.

          “Well I think she’s a lovely woman.”

          “She made me a homosexual you know.”

          “Did she, did she really,” the closet edged closer to the edge of his seat. “Do you think if I bought her some wool she might make me one too?”

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        • thehonkinggoose
          October 9, 2014

          A bigot is defined (in this moment, maybe not tomorrow) as a “person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions”. Is there any one out there who can assuredly say they have never been so?

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          • turhh
            October 9, 2014

            Well now perhaps we’re getting a little close to religions – “let he / she who is without sin cast the first bigot…..or is it sin?”

            However, you have a good point – one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter – so yes, I’m a bigot and proud of it unless the Laws that we create say I can’t be!

            Honk, honk!!

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            • thehonkinggoose
              October 9, 2014

              “there but for the grace of butter go I”

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            • turhh
              October 9, 2014

              Oh my goodness – we’re getting into the realms of the X rated film ‘Last Tango in Paris’ now dah-ding – I think we should now desist from gay, grey cats and butter and then honk our way with gaiety towards pastures new – and I don’t know about you but for me I think I’ll go and shag the cat – “here puss puss puss” – “MIAOW” (meaning thank you)!!

              WAHEY!

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  21. awildfloappears
    October 9, 2014

    Great post! To be honest, I was first shocked by the title, but the post is so well said. But I really think (I don’t know if someone’s already commented that…) that maybe it’s not always exactly right to say that those things were “taken by gay people”. For example, the gay folks I got to know would be very happy if they didn’t have to come out, because the coming-out-process is only neccessary because gay people aren’t accepted fully and completely by society. If everyone just accepted them as equal to straight people, no one would mind. So I think coming out is a result of inacceptance, nothing gay people took for themselves…
    Even though I’m completely with you at the rainbow thing! People are so superficial about that all the time…But still, I think most of the things mentioned are not taken by gay people but associated with them by others.
    Thank you for this post!

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 9, 2014

      You are totally right. Those phrases were not really taken by gay people so much as used by all people in reference to gay people. So I’m not being completely accurate or fair. I’ve taken some liberties in order to simplify my title and really catch people’s attention. I hope it will be understood as such, but I definitely take full responsibility for my words. Thanks for reading. 🙂

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  22. Bryan Hemming
    October 9, 2014

    In the UK gay, as used for homosexual relationships, didn’t become current until the 1970s. I was alive at the time – probably even more alive than I am today – and remember it being used for fun, jolly, happy etc. But even back then it had gone out of general use, as it sounded rather effeminate.

    As I recall, in the beginning, it only referred to males, not lesbians. I can well understand it being purloined by the gay community, rather in the way of an unused frock hanging in your granny’s closet. Better used for a new purpose than be left there for the moths.

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  23. mybrightspots
    October 8, 2014

    I have a poem my daughter wrote for me for mother’s day in 2nd grade, I think it was – maybe 3rd. In it she said she loved me because “she makes me feel so gay” (it rhymed with whatever she had on the previous line). She then put in parentheses that it meant happy. I smiled because I knew she hadn’t added the definition for me. She had added it for the teacher or any of her friends that might read it. My kids are voracious readers so they know the old definition of gay, but yeah… totally can’t be used that way now unless you are making a clearly archaic reference.

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 9, 2014

      I like that your daughter still used that word because it fit what she was trying to say. Language evolves and changes. It’s not meant to be static. The old meaning of “gay” could be brought back if we want it to. And then it would be just like any other word that has multiple definitions.

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  25. Craig
    October 8, 2014

    good read! if it helps…I don’t want the rainbow flag…I think something more elegant is required(I’m gay)

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  26. Jim woods
    October 8, 2014

    I bet the accusations of homophobia come thick and fast. As for me I think you talk sense

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  27. katherinejlegry
    October 8, 2014

    Well… once ya’ll get over homophobia these expressions and symbols won’t “belong” to anyone. Because discrimination and therefore revolution requires symbols generally so that movements can identify and move forward… gay and rainbows and being out are positive, sheltering, liberating symbols and words.
    They weren’t “taken over”. LGBT people aren’t “taking over” your pretty happy things.
    I’m bisexual… so when I talk to kids and explain gay… I say it can mean happy or it can mean same sex couples. NO BIG DEAL.
    Anyhow… not trying to spoil your honking. The gay marriage thing is a good advancement for human beings and I realize you’re on board with that. Now the children of many of these couples will get the family benefits they deserve too.
    Thanks for hearing my perspective.

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 8, 2014

      Thanks for speaking up and sharing your perspective. The first part of the article is meant to be tongue-in-cheek, for what it’s worth. Tone can be hard to convey in type, and I take full responsibility for my words. I do not want to hurt anyone and I hope that wasn’t the result. It’s good for morale to poke fun at ourselves, as a society, even about serious subjects.

      I’m impressed by how naturally my kids accept that some people are gay. It has become such a prevalent part of our culture that it is something they have seen throughout their lives. When they ask us parents about it, they seem to do without an iota of judgement which I think speaks volumes for the progress we have made towards equality over the last few decades.

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      • katherinejlegry
        October 8, 2014

        Well, I’m a true blue fan of Bernie Mac, I admire a lot of Jonathan Swift satire, I read David Foster Wallace almost to my own peril… not a fan so much as in slight horrific awe… and I was reared on Monty Python, Lenny Bruce, and Jackie Gleason (for better or worse). Humor is a rough and immensely historical road… and a way of talking about what truly happens and hurts, so I have wide girth for your “tongue and cheek” and I appreciate your serious reply. Thanks for taking the time.
        Normally I’m not going to diffuse anyone’s humor… so if people are laughing, I want to be clear I’m not judging anyone in this space at all. And to each is own, ultimately… and I’m not “politically correct”… I’ve written very raw satire in the past… probably never should be shown! So anyhow… please don’t allow me to stifle your creative juices by way of my candor and your kids are lucky to live in a more accepting era to be sure.

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      • Judy Smith
        October 8, 2014

        “I’m impressed by how naturally my kids accept that some people are gay.”

        Precisely. Makes me think we’re making progress as humans.

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        • thehonkinggoose
          October 9, 2014

          I know we are. And I’m beyond grateful that the school my kids started attending this year seems to promote a very accepting and supportive environment for all kids and families.

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  28. Mr. Flying Pig
    October 8, 2014

    Even though it has referred to homosexuality since the 1920’s, Gay was still used to describe being happy or joyful up until the 1970’s. I remember as a child, watching the Flintstones, sining along to the theme song “we’ll have a gay old time.” Wait a minute… Were they really implying that Fred and Barney were secretly… Oh no, say it isn’t so…

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 8, 2014

      Good to know. I’m a child of the 80’s and my parents didn’t let us watch much television. Thanks for sharing your input.

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  29. stevieglover92
    October 8, 2014

    A brave post and a good one. Nice one Mrs Goose 😀

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  30. moirainori77
    October 7, 2014

    Is it wrong that I laughed so much at this post?

    I don’t mind the “coming out of the closet” part and the rainbow part (I actually can’t think of a better symbol for LGBTQ rights–sorry, Kermit), but the word “gay”? As someone who has had to explain the “archaic” meaning of the word to my ten-year-old daughter, and who has had to deal with inappropriate sniggering when reading old nursery rhymes and poems, yeah, I feel a bit miffed about this, too.

    Then again, let’s all just be happy and gay, right? ^_^

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  31. jaklumen
    October 7, 2014

    Hey, thanks for the follow!

    Let’s see if I can sum up my thoughts without getting too long-winded– bear with me if I ramble on anyways.

    I’m LDS/Mormon, and of course the media did note quite emphatically that during our last General conference, the leadership reiterated their stance on marriage. Trust me, I understand that alone is a thorny issue… I would say simply that our church will not sanction same-gender unions in our temples, but that goes into a big can of worms, or implications, as it were, that would be too long to discuss effectively here.

    But I often note that our church officially approved Prohibition, and everyone knows how that turns out.

    I’m not just a person who has friends and family of non-heterosexual orientation, I am such a person. Although it could be claimed I’m taking het privilege, I don’t deny that I’m a man of bisexual orientation married to a woman of bisexual orientation. Our arrangement works for us, although… probably not quite like some. Of course, discussing that… well, people get upset when we try to share our experience. Politics, sex, religion, money– any discussion that touches on one or more of these topics gets people uncomfy because many have deep emotional investments in those areas.

    At the end of the day, I just want to enjoy people being people. One of these days, my brother-in-law will let my wife and I meet his partner. Incidentally, my in-laws have been much more cool about everything than my folks… mine got all weird when one of my sisters, after a string of girlfriends, married a man. It makes me sad that I recall some mothers acting all fearful around me because I looked like a breeder and they thought I might judge them. I’m not worried about that; I just wanted to say, “Oh hey, I’m here at Chuck E. Cheese with my daughter, too.” People are people… I hope we can just get to that soon so I can just enjoy their company.

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 8, 2014

      There are a lot of heterosexual people who think that being gay or not is strictly black-and-white. I believe it is more like a spectrum (much like my thoughts on love and hate, actually) and that we all fall somewhere on a wide spectrum from here to there. There is a lot of variation within. Diversity is beautiful!

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  32. sonworshiper
    October 7, 2014

    I find it hard to argue with those who point out how heterosexuals have done plenty to damage the… well, let’s see, sanctity isn’t the word I’m looking for. The respect afforded the institution of marriage, perhaps?
    The 72 hour Britney Spears marriage was a case in point, and one of many.
    I didn’t see churchgoers lining up to picket her divorce with signs quoting Malachi 2:16 “God hates divorce!”
    Great post.

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 7, 2014

      Thanks. I guess I missed that Britney Spears marriage and divorce hoopla, apparently it wasn’t broadcast in the area of the rock that I live under.

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      • sonworshiper
        October 7, 2014

        Well, as my comment implied, it was over and done with before news of the marriage itself might have reached you. 😀

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  33. BeautyTrendBlog
    October 7, 2014

    Omg i laughed as i have not laughe in a long time! This post is amazing i hadn’t thought on what was taken away from us but it is so true! And the marriage part as well! Who are we to judge who people love! Every marriage gay or straight should be able to succeed on its own without the hurdle of the government telling you who to marry or not to marry! Again amazing insightful post👌

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 7, 2014

      Thank you for your feedback. I’m really glad if I could make someone smile or laugh. 😀

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  34. prior
    October 7, 2014

    Hi – well I was hesitant to read this post because the topic is so hot right now – but I was actually pleased with the way you ended it:

    “The legalization issue has nothing whatever to do with religion or any type of church.”

    well said – and it was actually discrimination to restrict their rights like that.

    anyhow, thanks for following my blog so that could lead me here – looks like there are some cool things going on over here at the honking goose – and I am going to follow back 🙂
    peace

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 7, 2014

      I was a little hesitant about writing this, too, to be quite honest, but sometimes you have to just be yourself, even if it ruffles a few feathers, says the Goose in me.

      Thanks for checking out my blog, too, I appreciate that.

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  35. Judy Crankshaw
    October 7, 2014

    The more folks talk about The Sanctity of Marriage, the more ridiculous it becomes. Thanks for pointing that out. Having said that, I do think the rest of your arguments are a bit forced. But….go for it. Your blog is entertaining.

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 7, 2014

      Did it seem forced? Well, that’s okay. I thought the juxtaposition of the trivial with the serious might wake people up a bit.

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  36. Kristina Harman
    October 7, 2014

    I’ll give you the rainbow, if you can find me a lesbian sticker family with four dogs. Two big and two little. Lol. Awesome post! And, you are correct, ALL SOURCES show that the divorce rate is 40-50%. Some people will always find a way to refute even the most empirical data. Anyway, I’m a lesbian, and this post is hilarious! You can have the rainbow. I swear.

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 7, 2014

      I’ve don’t even know where they sell those sticker things. They don’t come each individual separately? I kinda thought you could just add on to them.

      I’m so glad you found this funny. If I can put a smile on a few faces, that makes my day. 😀

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  37. From The Pews
    October 7, 2014

    I enjoy your sense of humour!
    I also enjoyed how you piqued interest, very well done.

    Thanks for letting me find you. 🙂

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  38. Willie Mac
    October 7, 2014

    The statistic that 50% of marriages end in divorce is actually not true; it is a myth. It is more around 25%, nothing to be proud of but not like flipping a coin.

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  39. butchcountry67
    October 7, 2014

    As a gay person I applaud you for writing this, I laughed my ass off at your whiny voiced objections about the rainbow flag, that said I do believe the rainbow belongs to everyone of every race and sexuality, I interpret the rainbow flag to mean unity and diversity, if everyone straight or otherwise flew that flag the stigma behind it would soon fade away. when I see the flag I actually think of the GreenPeace’s RainBow Warrior , not the LGBT community lol

    On Marriage, I live in Canada and have been legally married 17 years, I can assure you no heterosexual marriage was harmed by my marriage, and our society and country didn’t implode when same sex couples both from Canada and other countries including the USA began getting married, in fact same sex marriage is considered normal here.

    You would think in a country (USA) that boasts about freedom justice and equality for all to the rest of the world, and has been known to go to war (a few times) to defend that boast, that same sex marriage would be a non issue,thinking along those lines the USA should have been a world leader and and set an example of that freedom justice and equality for all by being the very first country to back up what they boast about instead of being one of the last countries in the free world where this is still a very volatile issue.
    the world is watching 🙂

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 7, 2014

      I’m so glad you got a laugh out of it, I was really trying to be funny. I didn’t even know gay marriage was legal in Canada. That’s how oppressed we are in the USA, we don’t hear that kind of stuff on the news. Not that I listen to the news. I don’t even own a TV. I actually live under a rock.

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  40. Marissa Bergen
    October 7, 2014

    I get it, all about breaking the stereotypes, amen sister!

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  41. kobikwelu
    October 7, 2014

    Great work!!. Keep it up. The gay part is soo true.

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  42. Very Bangled
    October 7, 2014

    I’m proud of my city’s official unofficial flag and as a straight person, I’m proud to fly it because I believe in the importance of unity. Rainbows = still OK for straight people to love. It won’t make you gay to like rainbows.

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    • Very Bangled
      October 7, 2014

      Also, I don’t think “the gays have taken from us” is even accurate considering these topics, specifically the appropriated terminology, were pushed upon the gay community.

      The working theory is that gay meaning homosexual stems from the scene in Bringing Up Baby where Cary Grant acts foolish in a ladies silk robe while saying “I’m gay!” The irony there being that Cary Grant had long term male partners but that’s a side note. And so, gay meaning homosexual stems from the stereotype of gay men being feminized, that the way Cary Grant was acting in that scene was considered homosexual in nature and equating that with the words in the script.

      For “coming out of the closet”… God, I’m exhausted from typing. But really? You feel like you can’t use this phrase because you’re not gay? That “the gays” took this from the straight community? You know why “coming out of the closet” exists? Because being oneself was not accepted, it was something to hide, shamefully, away. If you want to end this turn of phrase from being a gay thing, then we need to change our society to accept our family and friends and then nothing will be “in the closet”. But that’s a side issue, because why can’t you use this phrase? Also “coming out” for debutantes is not short for “coming out of the closet” it is “coming out to society”, which is still in active use each year for the debutante balls.

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      • thehonkinggoose
        October 7, 2014

        Umm, I was trying to funny? I know it is a serious issue and all, but its okay to loosen up and joke about serious things sometimes.

        But that aside, I really appreciate the added information and it’s totally fair to further discuss the points I brought up. Actually, I do feel kind of like I can’t use these terms. I sure wouldn’t want to go around saying about things, “oh that’s gay”. But I’m not even mad about it. It’s totally fine. It was meant as a joke, but then I’m totally serious about the last bit about nobody being able to take away the sanctity of marriage.

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        • Very Bangled
          October 7, 2014

          I’m sorry, I get very worked up over this kind of thing because everybody has a family member or loved one who is gay, though they may not know it. And when you think of what “the gays” have taken from us vs. what society has taken from “the gays”? Well, it’s basic human rights. Our society has taken very basic human rights away from people that we all love and care for. It’s just too ridiculous to me that these rights need to be fought to be regained.

          Wording is so powerful, and potentially hurtful, that I think it’s very important to wield it carefully. That being said, words change and sometimes you just have to wave good-bye to their original meanings.

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          • thehonkinggoose
            October 7, 2014

            It’s cool, you don’t have to apologize. Your concerns are valid. I don’t necessarily want to offend anyone gay, or straight, or well anyone. But I’m not afraid to put my opinion out there and if it does offend I’m open to hearing that said, too. Thanks for honking at me. 🙂

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        • MrJohnson
          October 7, 2014

          If you’re going to joke around about ‘serious issues’ then you have to always be prepared that someone will be somewhat offended. They may like a bunch of your other humorous posts on serious issues that are offensive to other people but once you touch on something that they don’t like it’s a different story.

          Most people are uptight about something. Everyone is on their high horse about something when it comes to being politically correct. It stops bloggers from ever writing about certain subjects which keeps everything in the dark. Who are we kidding? People, movies, TV aren’t going to stop poking fun at anything and anyone. “That’s gay,” is something I say all the time and probably many others but no one wants to admit it to strangers especially on WordPress. Humans like to laugh and making fun of other humans is where the majority of humour originates.

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          • thehonkinggoose
            October 7, 2014

            I’m the first one to admit that I have things I’m uptight about. And this might not sit well with some people, but my horse is without a doubt higher than most. That’s a fact. And if people think that a goose can’t ride a horse, think again. We geese have rights, too.

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  43. Your Moderate Mama
    October 7, 2014

    I like rainbows!

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  44. Carl D'Agostino
    October 7, 2014

    I think gays who wish to “tie the knot” should have all protections and rights of marriage but why can’t they be satisfied with calling that a civil union or domestic partnership ? This would diminish the negative attitudes of many and make people who wish to be respectful and tolerant more comfortable if think marriage word reserved for man and woman. The gay community’s refusal to compromise makes resentments more pronounced. However, I don’t think we must change the traditional meaning of words just to satisfy the agenda of any element of society.

    Not all domestic partnerships have to do with sexual preference. Two old men or two old women or disabled people may want the same protections so they can pool meager resources and legally provide care for each other getting insurance, health care surrogate or heirs in wills as the family may have abandoned them. .

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    • thehonkinggoose
      October 7, 2014

      All very valid points. I would agree about changing the legal language from marriage to civil union or domestic partnership. I totally agree that a compromise would be fair.

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  45. carelessfire
    October 7, 2014

    As someone in the gay community, I appreciate this post. While we can’t help that people automatically use the word “gay” negatively or soley to refer to homosexuals, I am glad that you covered the topic delicately and with taste. Many people would have ended a post like this about the religious/social taboo about gay marriage, saying that we as a community would ruin their ability to be “pure in their marriage”, because other people they don’t know are married to the same sex. I commend you, thank you for voicing your opinion in a classy manner. While I might not agree with every point, I appreciate it.

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  46. wifemothersurvivor
    October 7, 2014

    They can have the rainbow, because if there were ever a gay (original definition) symbol, that would be it 😉

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  47. nearlywes
    October 7, 2014

    I wouldn’t mind being able to use a rainbow someday without having some kind of misinterpretation with homosexuality. Sometimes a rainbow can just mean rainbow,

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  48. cllgarrison
    October 7, 2014

    Also the world queer. As an avid reader, I am used to seeing this word in older books as meaning “strange.” And I am sorely lacking synonyms for strange now.

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  49. Raphsodi
    October 7, 2014

    I love this post… Well said.

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  50. LoveandFlats
    October 7, 2014

    I love this post!

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